Darrell Koskinen
2009-08-04 01:50:23 UTC
Hi Justin,
I just want to use the most appropriate force field and associated
parameters for my simulation of graphene in ammonia gas. Is OPLS an
appropriate force field to use?
I have searched for force fields for gas simulations but have not yet
been able to find one specific to graphene and ammonia gas. Since
graphene is in a condensed phase and ammonia is in a gas phase and I
understand that I need to use the same force field for both graphene and
ammonia, I will have to use a force field for either gas-phase MD or
condensed-phase MD. Since I am finding it difficult to locate gas-phase
MD force fields, is it acceptable to use a condensed-phase MD force
field, which I believe is the case for OPLS (please confirm)?
If it is acceptable to use OPLS, then I am assuming that I am to use the
parameters in the ffoplsaabon.itp and ffoplsaanb.itp as is and not
modify them (i.e. not create frankenstein force fields), correct? Am I
correct in my understanding that the only item that requires
modification is the .n2t file?
And, by the way, I have resolved the segmentation fault problem. It was
being caused by the freezing of the graphene lattice. When I removed the
freezing, I saw the graphene structure curl upward and am thinking that
by freezing the atoms in place it was creating great forces between the
atoms as they were kept from moving into their preferred orientation.
I subsequently tried to restrain the atoms via position restraints, but
I still see the graphene structure moving. Could you please let me know
why the position restraints do not appear to be working? Do I need to
use greater restraint parameters? I created a position restaint file for
the graphene structure posre.itp using "genpr -f graphene.gro -n
index.ndx -o posre.itp -fc 0 0 1000" (note that genrestr is not
recognized in my version of GROMACS) to restrain the graphene lattice to
the x-y plane and submitted 2 runs with the following in my run.mdp file:
Run 1:
define =-DPOSRES
constraints =none
Run 2:
define =-DPOSRES
constraints =all-bonds
Run 1 with constraints=none appears to restrain the graphene lattice
better than the Run 2 with constraints=all-bonds.
Here is an extract from posre.itp for the first few atoms:
******************************************
; position restraints for Grph of ?z??^K^Q+
[ position_restraints ]
; i funct fcx fcy fcz
1 1 0 0 1000
2 1 0 0 1000
3 1 0 0 1000
******************************************
Again, I thank you very much for your assistance.
Darrell
I just want to use the most appropriate force field and associated
parameters for my simulation of graphene in ammonia gas. Is OPLS an
appropriate force field to use?
I have searched for force fields for gas simulations but have not yet
been able to find one specific to graphene and ammonia gas. Since
graphene is in a condensed phase and ammonia is in a gas phase and I
understand that I need to use the same force field for both graphene and
ammonia, I will have to use a force field for either gas-phase MD or
condensed-phase MD. Since I am finding it difficult to locate gas-phase
MD force fields, is it acceptable to use a condensed-phase MD force
field, which I believe is the case for OPLS (please confirm)?
If it is acceptable to use OPLS, then I am assuming that I am to use the
parameters in the ffoplsaabon.itp and ffoplsaanb.itp as is and not
modify them (i.e. not create frankenstein force fields), correct? Am I
correct in my understanding that the only item that requires
modification is the .n2t file?
And, by the way, I have resolved the segmentation fault problem. It was
being caused by the freezing of the graphene lattice. When I removed the
freezing, I saw the graphene structure curl upward and am thinking that
by freezing the atoms in place it was creating great forces between the
atoms as they were kept from moving into their preferred orientation.
I subsequently tried to restrain the atoms via position restraints, but
I still see the graphene structure moving. Could you please let me know
why the position restraints do not appear to be working? Do I need to
use greater restraint parameters? I created a position restaint file for
the graphene structure posre.itp using "genpr -f graphene.gro -n
index.ndx -o posre.itp -fc 0 0 1000" (note that genrestr is not
recognized in my version of GROMACS) to restrain the graphene lattice to
the x-y plane and submitted 2 runs with the following in my run.mdp file:
Run 1:
define =-DPOSRES
constraints =none
Run 2:
define =-DPOSRES
constraints =all-bonds
Run 1 with constraints=none appears to restrain the graphene lattice
better than the Run 2 with constraints=all-bonds.
Here is an extract from posre.itp for the first few atoms:
******************************************
; position restraints for Grph of ?z??^K^Q+
[ position_restraints ]
; i funct fcx fcy fcz
1 1 0 0 1000
2 1 0 0 1000
3 1 0 0 1000
******************************************
Again, I thank you very much for your assistance.
Darrell
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:48:02 -0400
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derived using the same scheme as the original work.
that the paper by Cornell et al. refers to parameters suitable for simulations
of proteins and nucleic acids, as well as a few organic functional groups.
Parameterization was based on peptide backbone geometry, as well as other
parameters, likely none of which involved graphene and gaseous ammonia (they
were doing liquid simulations).
derived for use with gas-phase simulations.
atoms involved (function type 1), followed by the specification of that
particular improper ("improper_Z_CA_X_Y"). See the manual for more details,
and/or generate a topology for a protein with pdb2gmx with OPLS-AA and see how
they're defined.
choice. If you're dead-set on using these parameters, download the ffamber
ports and use the ffamber94 force field, not some Frankensteined-OPLS. Besides,
all of the parameters in the Cornell paper are in kcal/mol/A^2, which will
require conversion to Gromacs standard units. If you've printed them directly
in your previous attempts, I can guarantee you you're not getting the values you
think you are.
-Justin
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Hi Justin,
With regard to your comment about using other force fields for my
simulation of graphene surrounded by ammonia gas, are referring to the
force fields for both graphene and ammonia or only to the force field
for graphene?
The "force field" should be one in the same. The parameters should be suitablyWith regard to your comment about using other force fields for my
simulation of graphene surrounded by ammonia gas, are referring to the
force fields for both graphene and ammonia or only to the force field
for graphene?
derived using the same scheme as the original work.
I reviewed my selection of the force field parameters for graphene and
see that I selected the parameters from the paper by Cornell et al.
since a paper on deformation of carbon nanotubes ("A structural
mechanics approach for the analysis of carbon nanotubes" by Chunyu Li,
Tsu-Wei Chou in International Journal of Solids and Structures 40 (2003)
2487?2499) used parameters from the paper by Cornell et al. Is this
sufficient to justify the use of these parameters? I also thought that
graphene and ammonia would be considered organic since they are
comprised of carbon, nitrogen, and hydrogen, which are all common
elements found in organic matter.
If you feel that precedent is sufficient, then I guess go ahead. But realizesee that I selected the parameters from the paper by Cornell et al.
since a paper on deformation of carbon nanotubes ("A structural
mechanics approach for the analysis of carbon nanotubes" by Chunyu Li,
Tsu-Wei Chou in International Journal of Solids and Structures 40 (2003)
2487?2499) used parameters from the paper by Cornell et al. Is this
sufficient to justify the use of these parameters? I also thought that
graphene and ammonia would be considered organic since they are
comprised of carbon, nitrogen, and hydrogen, which are all common
elements found in organic matter.
that the paper by Cornell et al. refers to parameters suitable for simulations
of proteins and nucleic acids, as well as a few organic functional groups.
Parameterization was based on peptide backbone geometry, as well as other
parameters, likely none of which involved graphene and gaseous ammonia (they
were doing liquid simulations).
With regard to the parameters for ammonia, is it acceptable to use the
parameters from the paper by Cornell et al. or do I need to find papers
specifically related to ammonia gas molecular dynamics simulations?
I would seriously consider finding parameters (if they exist) that have beenparameters from the paper by Cornell et al. or do I need to find papers
specifically related to ammonia gas molecular dynamics simulations?
derived for use with gas-phase simulations.
With regard to dihedral selection, I looked at the .top file and see
that the function type is listed as 3 in the dihedrals section, which I
believe indicates that my simulation is using a Ryckaert-Bellemans
function. It appears to me that if I am using the OPLS force field that
the Ryckaert-Bellemans dihedral type is automatically selected. I do see
in the ffoplsaabon.itp file that there is an improper dihedral
definition which think I could potentially use in my simulation
"improper_Z_CA_X_Y", but how do I cause my simulation to use this
definition? Do I need to add the following line to my .top file?
"#define improper_Z_CA_X_Y"
No, you would have to use a special dihedrals section, that specifies the fourthat the function type is listed as 3 in the dihedrals section, which I
believe indicates that my simulation is using a Ryckaert-Bellemans
function. It appears to me that if I am using the OPLS force field that
the Ryckaert-Bellemans dihedral type is automatically selected. I do see
in the ffoplsaabon.itp file that there is an improper dihedral
definition which think I could potentially use in my simulation
"improper_Z_CA_X_Y", but how do I cause my simulation to use this
definition? Do I need to add the following line to my .top file?
"#define improper_Z_CA_X_Y"
atoms involved (function type 1), followed by the specification of that
particular improper ("improper_Z_CA_X_Y"). See the manual for more details,
and/or generate a topology for a protein with pdb2gmx with OPLS-AA and see how
they're defined.
Further, I thought that I could simply modify the appropriate lines of
the ffoplsaanb.itp and ffoplsaabon.itp to enter in the parameters found
in the paper by Cornell et al. so that they will be used in my
simulation. Am I correct in my assumption?
Modifying ffoplsaa files to parameters that are not OPLS-AA is probably a badthe ffoplsaanb.itp and ffoplsaabon.itp to enter in the parameters found
in the paper by Cornell et al. so that they will be used in my
simulation. Am I correct in my assumption?
choice. If you're dead-set on using these parameters, download the ffamber
ports and use the ffamber94 force field, not some Frankensteined-OPLS. Besides,
all of the parameters in the Cornell paper are in kcal/mol/A^2, which will
require conversion to Gromacs standard units. If you've printed them directly
in your previous attempts, I can guarantee you you're not getting the values you
think you are.
-Justin
Thanks again for your help.
Darrell
parameters?
planar
consistently get the crash between step 20,000 and 30,000, then
perhaps split
allowing
bonding
connected to
bouncing
negatively
adsorption
through
interface
that there's
restraining as
Position
positions can
interaction
then you'd see
but that
graphene sheet.
puckering, or
that
20,000 and
the trajectory?
equilibration.
greater
and
me know
sheet? Why
frozen)?
could watch? What
as in the
Peptide". Please
difference
clear to me.
system, one generally
solvent to optimize
line of the
nm x 38 nm
had coordinates
did notice
negative, but
segmentation fault
Your choice of 2.0 for rcoulomb is likely suboptimal for PME.
Some
be the cause
equilibration)
mapped)
using editconf so
But anyway here
error in this
solvent and the box
originally did
.gro file, and
haven't ever set
then they might
where the
use shorter
computation time.
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atoms in my
neighborlist
following
nsteps and
completes
every 100
fails with a
system output every
mapped)
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my solvent and
dimension as the
runs with different
point? I only ask
you're adding zero space,
your editconf command
and 5.0 nm appropriate
cut-off's should be used?
indication of the cause
files, error
help me
No LINCS warnings?
structure at each point
that provide me
try to load it
is caused because
segmentation fault.
found it useful sometimes
first few frames if the
help determine how
file (broken frames, etc).
not mapped)
<gmx-users at gromacs.org>
format=flowed
your previous
looked at the
that my box is
simulation and
is exploding from
model physics or
anything explode.
things start to go
structure to
providing me
simulation consists
molecules above it. The
the box. So I am a
not mapped)
<gmx-users at gromacs.org>
format=flowed
executes. My simulation
ammonia molecules above
lattice, three
times the height
molecules. I am including
fails with excessive
stderr, *and* the .log
merely the
useful for finding out
advice below.
***************************************************************************
edge of graphene
lattice are
group exclusions.
all directions
***************************************************************************
***************************************************************************
[0x3834a0de80]
/usr/lib64/libmd_mpi.so.4(pme_calc_pidx+0xd6)
/usr/lib64/libmd_mpi.so.4(do_pme+0x808)
/usr/lib64/libmd_mpi.so.4(force+0x8de)
/usr/lib64/libmd_mpi.so.4(do_force+0x5ef)
[0x4142f0]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf4)
node node16 exited on
***************************************************************************
causing the fault?
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:11:07 -0400
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Hi Justin,
bonds (CA-CA, CA-CT, CA-HA, CT-HC, H-N3)
angles (CA-CA-CA, CA-CA-HA, CA-CT-HC, H-N3-H)
dihedrals (X-CA-CA-X, X-CA-CT-X)
I am using the ffolpsaanb.itp VdW parameters for H & N3
And I am using the VdW parameters found in the paper "A Second
Generation Force Field for the Simulation of Proteins, Nucleic Acids,
and Organic Molecules" for CA, HA, CT, & HC doing the conversion from
Angstroms (paper units) to nm (ffoplsaanb.itp units) for sigma and from
kcal/mol (paper units) to kJ/mol (ffoplsaanb.itp units) for epsilon.
bonds (CA-CA, CA-CT, CA-HA, CT-HC, H-N3)
angles (CA-CA-CA, CA-CA-HA, CA-CT-HC, H-N3-H)
dihedrals (X-CA-CA-X, X-CA-CT-X)
I am using the ffolpsaanb.itp VdW parameters for H & N3
And I am using the VdW parameters found in the paper "A Second
Generation Force Field for the Simulation of Proteins, Nucleic Acids,
and Organic Molecules" for CA, HA, CT, & HC doing the conversion from
Angstroms (paper units) to nm (ffoplsaanb.itp units) for sigma and from
kcal/mol (paper units) to kJ/mol (ffoplsaanb.itp units) for epsilon.
converted parameters for sigma were different by only +/-2% to +/-8%
from the values in ffoplsaanb.itp, but the converted parameters for
epsilon were different by +/-23% to +/-66% from the values in
ffoplsaanb.itp. Is this a valid paper to use for selection of
from the values in ffoplsaanb.itp, but the converted parameters for
epsilon were different by +/-23% to +/-66% from the values in
ffoplsaanb.itp. Is this a valid paper to use for selection of
If memory serves, that paper is the derivation by Cornell, et al. for the
AMBER94 parameter set, so no, you are not going to find those same
parameters inAMBER94 parameter set, so no, you are not going to find those same
ffoplsaanb.itp.
Furthermore, the title of the paper indicates that the parameters are for
proteins, nucleic acids, and organic molecules. Has anyone else in the
literature used these parameters for graphene lattices? I would
suggest using aFurthermore, the title of the paper indicates that the parameters are for
proteins, nucleic acids, and organic molecules. Has anyone else in the
literature used these parameters for graphene lattices? I would
force field that others have used for such solid materials, like
nanotubes orother graphene surfaces. Otherwise, you will have to somehow
demonstrate that aforce field designed for use with condensed phase biomolecules is
applicable toyour gas-phase graphene lattice.
bunch ofThe graphene lattice is only vibrating slightly and looks like a
travelling waves.
I believe I am using proper dihedrals and not improper dihedrals in my
model.
It would seem. Consider if impropers might be necessary to keep yourI believe I am using proper dihedrals and not improper dihedrals in my
model.
groups planar. That's what they are there for.
endsSince the graphene structure will be connected to electrodes at both
and will be mounted above a substrate, I assume the atoms in the
structure are not completely free and thus I need to model them being
restricted in their movement. Maybe position restraints are more
appropriate than freezing to model such a situation.
I do not see anything in the trajectory that provides clues as to what
might be causing the segmentation fault.
Then it will be very difficult to get any more remote help ;) If youstructure are not completely free and thus I need to model them being
restricted in their movement. Maybe position restraints are more
appropriate than freezing to model such a situation.
I do not see anything in the trajectory that provides clues as to what
might be causing the segmentation fault.
consistently get the crash between step 20,000 and 30,000, then
your simulation into shorter sections, and during the time when you
expect thecrash to occur, set nstxtcout = (some small value, like 1 or 10) to
obtain themost detail possible. At some point, something is going to go
careening offinto infinity.
-Justin
noticed that-Justin
Thanks again for your help.
Darrell
Darrell
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:08:38 -0400
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Hi Justin,
I froze the graphene sheet because, prior to freezing it, I
I froze the graphene sheet because, prior to freezing it, I
it was vibrating and thought that maybe its vibration was not
the NH3 molecules to adsorb (bond) to it. But after freezing the
graphene sheet, I see that see that NH3 molecules are still not
graphene sheet, I see that see that NH3 molecules are still not
to it. Physical experiments of NH3 and a graphene lattice
electrodes have shown that NH3 does adsorb to graphene, but all I see
are NH3 molecules coming close to the graphene surface and then
are NH3 molecules coming close to the graphene surface and then
away which I am assuming is a result of repulsion between the
charged N atom in the ammonia molecule and the pi electrons in the
graphene lattice. So I am not sure why experiments have shown
graphene lattice. So I am not sure why experiments have shown
unless adsoption is occurring as a result of a current flowing
the graphene structure or as a result of edge effects at the
between the electrodes and the graphene lattice.
What parameters are you using for the species involved? Could besomething wrong with your model.
Could you tell me how freezing is different that position
this is not completely clear to me?
Freezing means positions are absolutely fixed and never updated.restraining means there is an energy penalty to movement, but
adjust slightly. I was thinking that if you have some strange
happening, and freezing was preventing any reaction to the force,
an explosion. I don't necessarily see why you need to apply either,
will depend on the extent of "vibration" that you see in the
Are you applying improper dihedrals appropriately? Are the rings
just vibrating slightly (which could be normal)?
I will try position restraining the graphene structure and see if
resolves my problem.
I have been able to view a trajectory for simulations of fewer than
20,000 time steps and see the frozen graphene lattice and the NH3
molecules floating through space.
Note that the segmentation fault only occurs sometime between
I have been able to view a trajectory for simulations of fewer than
20,000 time steps and see the frozen graphene lattice and the NH3
molecules floating through space.
Note that the segmentation fault only occurs sometime between
30,000 time steps. Could it be that the "funky" behaviour associated
with freezing would take 20,000+ time steps to cause a segmentation
fault?
Depends entirely upon what's causing the explosion. Any clues fromwith freezing would take 20,000+ time steps to cause a segmentation
fault?
-Justin
Thanks again for your help.
Darrell
Darrell
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:20:04 -0400
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Hi Justin,
Thanks for the explanation of the difference between EM &
Thanks for the explanation of the difference between EM &
Since in my model, I: (i) only have the graphene sheet and ammonia
molecules spaced reasonably far apart from each other (1332 NH3
molecules in a 38x38x38 box) and from the graphene sheet (distance
between the closest ammonia molecule and the graphene sheet is
molecules spaced reasonably far apart from each other (1332 NH3
molecules in a 38x38x38 box) and from the graphene sheet (distance
between the closest ammonia molecule and the graphene sheet is
than the molecular diameter of ammonia - maybe this is too close
could be causing my problem?); (ii) freeze the graphene sheet; I am
thinking equilibration is not required in my model. Please let
thinking equilibration is not required in my model. Please let
if you think I still need to perform equilibration.
Yes, the EM did converge satisfactorily. Here is the output from
Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 250 in 61 steps
Potential Energy = 4.6094102e+04
Maximum force = 2.4543298e+02 on atom 1
Norm of force = 7.5803179e+03
Is this a reasonable value for FMax?
Your Fmax looks fine. Why is it necessary to freeze the grapheneYes, the EM did converge satisfactorily. Here is the output from
Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 250 in 61 steps
Potential Energy = 4.6094102e+04
Maximum force = 2.4543298e+02 on atom 1
Norm of force = 7.5803179e+03
Is this a reasonable value for FMax?
not use position restraints (to rule out funky behavior of being
Did you ever obtain a trajectory with enough frames that you
happened?
-Justin
-Justin
Thanks again for your help.
Darrell
Darrell
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:15:12 -0400
From: "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Segmentation Fault (Address not mapped)
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From: "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>
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Hi Mark,
I do not do any equilibration, I only do energy minimization
I do not do any equilibration, I only do energy minimization
"GROMACS Tutorial for Solvation Study of Spider Toxin
let me know if I need to do equilibration and what is the
between energy minimization and equilibration as this is not
Did the EM converge satisfactorily? What was Fmax?
Unlike EM, equilibration is an MD process; for a protein
Unlike EM, equilibration is an MD process; for a protein
position-restrains the protein and allows the surrounding
around the structure.
-Justin
-Justin
Here is an mdp file for a run that actually completed
title =Graphene
;warnings =10
cpp =cpp
;define =-DPOSRES
constraints =none
integrator =md
dt =0.002 ; ps
nsteps =10000
nstcomm =100
nstxout =100
;nstvout =1000
nstfout =0
nstlog =100
nstenergy =100
nstlist =100
ns_type =grid
rlist =2.0
coulombtype =PME
rcoulomb =2.0
vdwtype =cut-off
rvdw =5.0
fourierspacing =0.12
fourier_nx =0
fourier_ny =0
fourier_nz =0
pme_order =4
ewald_rtol =1e-5
optimize_fft =yes
; This section freezes graphene lattice
energygrps = Grph NH3
energygrp_excl = Grph Grph
freezegrps = Grph ; Freeze graphene lattice
freezedim = Y Y Y; in all directions
Tcoupl =berendsen
tau_t =0.5 0.5
tc-grps =NH3 Grph
ref_t =300 300
;coupl = parrinello-rahman
;tau_p = 1.5
;compressibility = 1.3
;ref_p = 0.061
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 173529
And here is a copy of an mdp file for a run that did not complete
title =Graphene
;warnings =10
cpp =cpp
;define =-DPOSRES
constraints =none
integrator =md
dt =0.002 ; ps
nsteps =30000
nstcomm =500
nstxout =500
;nstvout =1000
nstfout =0
nstlog =500
nstenergy =500
nstlist =500
ns_type =grid
rlist =2.0
coulombtype =PME
rcoulomb =2.0
vdwtype =cut-off
rvdw =5.0
fourierspacing =0.12
fourier_nx =0
fourier_ny =0
fourier_nz =0
pme_order =4
ewald_rtol =1e-5
optimize_fft =yes
; This section freezes graphene lattice
energygrps = Grph NH3
energygrp_excl = Grph Grph
freezegrps = Grph ; Freeze graphene lattice
freezedim = Y Y Y; in all directions
Tcoupl =berendsen
tau_t =0.5 0.5
tc-grps =NH3 Grph
ref_t =300 300
;coupl = parrinello-rahman
;tau_p = 1.5
;compressibility = 1.3
;ref_p = 0.061
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 173529
Please let me know what you think might be the problem.
Thanks
Darrell
title =Graphene
;warnings =10
cpp =cpp
;define =-DPOSRES
constraints =none
integrator =md
dt =0.002 ; ps
nsteps =10000
nstcomm =100
nstxout =100
;nstvout =1000
nstfout =0
nstlog =100
nstenergy =100
nstlist =100
ns_type =grid
rlist =2.0
coulombtype =PME
rcoulomb =2.0
vdwtype =cut-off
rvdw =5.0
fourierspacing =0.12
fourier_nx =0
fourier_ny =0
fourier_nz =0
pme_order =4
ewald_rtol =1e-5
optimize_fft =yes
; This section freezes graphene lattice
energygrps = Grph NH3
energygrp_excl = Grph Grph
freezegrps = Grph ; Freeze graphene lattice
freezedim = Y Y Y; in all directions
Tcoupl =berendsen
tau_t =0.5 0.5
tc-grps =NH3 Grph
ref_t =300 300
;coupl = parrinello-rahman
;tau_p = 1.5
;compressibility = 1.3
;ref_p = 0.061
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 173529
And here is a copy of an mdp file for a run that did not complete
title =Graphene
;warnings =10
cpp =cpp
;define =-DPOSRES
constraints =none
integrator =md
dt =0.002 ; ps
nsteps =30000
nstcomm =500
nstxout =500
;nstvout =1000
nstfout =0
nstlog =500
nstenergy =500
nstlist =500
ns_type =grid
rlist =2.0
coulombtype =PME
rcoulomb =2.0
vdwtype =cut-off
rvdw =5.0
fourierspacing =0.12
fourier_nx =0
fourier_ny =0
fourier_nz =0
pme_order =4
ewald_rtol =1e-5
optimize_fft =yes
; This section freezes graphene lattice
energygrps = Grph NH3
energygrp_excl = Grph Grph
freezegrps = Grph ; Freeze graphene lattice
freezedim = Y Y Y; in all directions
Tcoupl =berendsen
tau_t =0.5 0.5
tc-grps =NH3 Grph
ref_t =300 300
;coupl = parrinello-rahman
;tau_p = 1.5
;compressibility = 1.3
;ref_p = 0.061
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 173529
Please let me know what you think might be the problem.
Thanks
Darrell
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:47:49 +1000
From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Segmentation Fault (Address not mapped)
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Hi Mark,
Yes, I know that the box dimensions are defined in the last
Yes, I know that the box dimensions are defined in the last
.gro file and I have defined these dimensions as 38 nm x 38
in the .gro file.
OK.I looked through my .gro file to ensure none of the atoms
outside the 38x38x38 box. While I was reviewing the file I
that some coordinates had negative values, slightly
negative none the less. Could this be causing the
between time step 10,000 and time step 30,000? Why wouldn't the
negative coordinates cause a segmentation fault much earlier?
The absolute value of the coordinates is irrelevant.negative coordinates cause a segmentation fault much earlier?
Your choice of 2.0 for rcoulomb is likely suboptimal for PME.
smaller value is probably more efficient, but this will not
of your problem.
What is your system preparation regime? (i.e. EM +
What is your system preparation regime? (i.e. EM +
Can you post a corrected and current .mdp file?
Mark
Mark
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:59:21 +1000
From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Segmentation Fault (Address not
From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
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Hi Justin,
I was experiencing the problem before someone suggested
I was experiencing the problem before someone suggested
I do not think the problem is being caused by editconf.
is my editconf command. Let me know if you a source of
command line.
editconf -f graphene.gro -n index.ndx -o graphene_ec.gro
I did not want to add in additional space between the
editconf -f graphene.gro -n index.ndx -o graphene_ec.gro
I did not want to add in additional space between the
as I saw no reason for doing so. And hence that is why I
not use editconf.
My box dimensions are 38nm x 38nm x 38nm.
The box dimensions are defined in the bottom line of theMy box dimensions are 38nm x 38nm x 38nm.
not by the positions of the atoms in that file. If you
them to be suitable for your coordinates with editconf,
not be.
Mark
I used cutoffs of 2 nm & 5 nm
Mark
I used cutoffs of 2 nm & 5 nm
for my system so ensure the cutoff occured at a distance
potentials were stabalized (not changing). I guess I could
cutoffs such as 1.5 nm & 2 nm and this may decrease my
I also thought that I needed to use larger cut-offs since
in the gas phase and there is greater ditance between the
simulation than in liquid-based simulations.
In the .log files, I do not see any LINCS warnings or
In the .log files, I do not see any LINCS warnings or
errors.
I ran gmxcheck on a .trr file and was presented with the
I ran gmxcheck on a .trr file and was presented with the
*********************************************
Checking file mdtraj.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame 0 time 0.000
# Atoms 10482
Last frame 5 time 1.000
Item #frames Timestep (ps)
Step 6 0.2
Time 6 0.2
Lambda 6 0.2
Coords 6 0.2
Velocities 6 0.2
Forces 0
Box 6 0.2
*********************************************
I ran two additional simulations with different values for
Checking file mdtraj.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame 0 time 0.000
# Atoms 10482
Last frame 5 time 1.000
Item #frames Timestep (ps)
Step 6 0.2
Time 6 0.2
Lambda 6 0.2
Coords 6 0.2
Velocities 6 0.2
Forces 0
Box 6 0.2
*********************************************
I ran two additional simulations with different values for
When I run a simulation with the following parameters it
successfully and I see, in the log file, the system output
time steps.
nsteps =10000
nstcomm =100
nstxout =100
nstfout =0
nstlog =100
nstenergy =100
nstlist =100
When I run a simulation with the following parameters it
nsteps =10000
nstcomm =100
nstxout =100
nstfout =0
nstlog =100
nstenergy =100
nstlist =100
When I run a simulation with the following parameters it
sementation fault and, in the log file, I do not see
500 time steps.
nsteps =30000
nstcomm =500
nstxout =500
nstfout =0
nstlog =500
nstenergy =500
nstlist =500
Please let me know what you think might be the problem.
Thank you very much.
Darrell
nsteps =30000
nstcomm =500
nstxout =500
nstfout =0
nstlog =500
nstenergy =500
nstlist =500
Please let me know what you think might be the problem.
Thank you very much.
Darrell
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:37:15 -0400
From: "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Segmentation Fault (Address not
From: "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>
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Hi Mark,
I used editconf on my .gro file with zero space between
I used editconf on my .gro file with zero space between
the box and the resulting box had the exact same
initial box. I also performed a number of simulation
If you're using editconf to define zero space, what's the
because it is a potential source of error if you think
but something else might be going on. Maybe you can post
line.
What are your box dimensions? Are cut-off lengths of 2.0
What are your box dimensions? Are cut-off lengths of 2.0
for your system? How did you determine that these
mdp parameters hoping this would provide me some
of the fault but to no avail. I looked through the log
files, and output files and could not find any output to
identify the source of my error.
It is very odd that Gromacs isn't report anything at all.No neighborlist errors? These would be in the .log file.
Could you please let me know how I can look at my
as you indicate below as I do not see any files output
to do so? I tried to look at the .trr file but when I
into VMD, it causes an error. I am assuming this error
the .trr file did not complete correctly due to the
Please advise.
How early is the segmentation fault occurring? I haveto set nstxout (or nstxtcout) = 1 to try to catch the
explosion is occurring early. In any case, gmxcheck will
many frames are present, as well as the integrity of the
-Justin
Thanks.
Darrell
Darrell
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:19:42 +1000
From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Segmentation Fault (Address
From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
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Hi Mark,
I added the energy group exclusions as indicated in
I added the energy group exclusions as indicated in
response but am still experiencing the same problem. I
.log files and see that in one log file it tells me
exploding. However, I do not have many molecules in my
therefore do not think that it is possible that my box
pressure.
Sure, but if there's something malformed with yourstarting configuration, then large forces can make
Look at your structures at each point and see where
wrong. Make sure you've used editconf on your starting
provide the right box dimensions.
Mark
Mark
Maybe if I re-state my simulation it will help you in
direction on what might be causing the problem. My
of a graphene lattice with a layer of ammonia
box is very large and there is lots of empty space in
little confused as to how the box could be exploding.
Thanks again in advance for your help.
Darrell Koskinen
Thanks again in advance for your help.
Darrell Koskinen
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:41:45 +1000
From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
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Dear GROMACS Gurus,
I am experiencing a segmentation fault when mdrun
I am experiencing a segmentation fault when mdrun
has a graphene lattice with an array (layer) of
it. The box is three times the width of the graphene
times the length of the graphene lattice, and three
between the graphene lattice and the ammonia
the mdp file and the error message.
Probably your system is exploding when integrationforces. You should look at the bottom of stdout,
file to diagnose. The error message you give below is
diagnostic trace from the MPI library, and it not
what GROMACS thinks the problem might be. Further
***************************************************************************
.mdp file
title =FWS
;warnings =10
cpp =cpp
;define =-DPOSRES
;constraints =all-bonds
integrator =md
dt =0.002 ; ps
nsteps =100000
nstcomm =1000
nstxout =1000
;nstvout =1000
nstfout =0
nstlog =1000
nstenergy =1000
nstlist =1000
ns_type =grid
rlist =2.0
coulombtype =PME
rcoulomb =2.0
vdwtype =cut-off
rvdw =5.0
fourierspacing =0.12
fourier_nx =0
fourier_ny =0
fourier_nz =0
pme_order =4
ewald_rtol =1e-5
optimize_fft =yes
; This section added in to freeze hydrogen atoms at
title =FWS
;warnings =10
cpp =cpp
;define =-DPOSRES
;constraints =all-bonds
integrator =md
dt =0.002 ; ps
nsteps =100000
nstcomm =1000
nstxout =1000
;nstvout =1000
nstfout =0
nstlog =1000
nstenergy =1000
nstlist =1000
ns_type =grid
rlist =2.0
coulombtype =PME
rcoulomb =2.0
vdwtype =cut-off
rvdw =5.0
fourierspacing =0.12
fourier_nx =0
fourier_ny =0
fourier_nz =0
pme_order =4
ewald_rtol =1e-5
optimize_fft =yes
; This section added in to freeze hydrogen atoms at
lattice to prevent movement of lattice
;energygrp_excl = Edge Edge Edge Grph Grph Grph
freezegrps = Edge Grph ; Hydrogen atoms in graphene
;energygrp_excl = Edge Edge Edge Grph Grph Grph
freezegrps = Edge Grph ; Hydrogen atoms in graphene
associated with the residue Edge
See comments in 7.3.24 of manual. You need the energyMark
freezedim = Y Y Y Y Y Y; Freeze hydrogen atoms in
;Tcoupl =berendsen
;tau_t =0.1 0.1
;tc-grps =protein non-protein
;ref_t = 300 300
;Pcoupl = parrinello-rahman
;tau_p = 0.5
;compressibility = 4.5e-5
;ref_p = 1.0
;gen_vel = yes
;gen_temp = 300.0
;gen_seed = 173529
;tau_t =0.1 0.1
;tc-grps =protein non-protein
;ref_t = 300 300
;Pcoupl = parrinello-rahman
;tau_p = 0.5
;compressibility = 4.5e-5
;ref_p = 1.0
;gen_vel = yes
;gen_temp = 300.0
;gen_seed = 173529
***************************************************************************
ERROR IN OUTPUT FILE
[node16:25758] *** Process received signal ***
[node16:25758] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[node16:25758] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
[node16:25758] Failing at address: 0xfffffffe1233e230
[node16:25758] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0
[node16:25758] *** Process received signal ***
[node16:25758] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[node16:25758] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
[node16:25758] Failing at address: 0xfffffffe1233e230
[node16:25758] [ 0] /lib64/libpthread.so.0
[node16:25758] [ 1]
[0x2ba295dd0606]
[node16:25758] [ 2]
[node16:25758] [ 2]
[0x2ba295dd4058]
[node16:25758] [ 3]
[node16:25758] [ 3]
[0x2ba295dba5be]
[node16:25758] [ 4]
[node16:25758] [ 4]
[0x2ba295ddeaff]
[node16:25758] [ 5] mdrun_mpi(do_md+0xe23) [0x411193]
[node16:25758] [ 6] mdrun_mpi(mdrunner+0xd40)
[node16:25758] [ 5] mdrun_mpi(do_md+0xe23) [0x411193]
[node16:25758] [ 6] mdrun_mpi(mdrunner+0xd40)
[node16:25758] [ 7] mdrun_mpi(main+0x239) [0x4146f9]
[node16:25758] [ 8]
[node16:25758] [ 8]
[0x3833e1d8b4]
[node16:25758] [ 9] mdrun_mpi [0x40429a]
[node16:25758] *** End of error message ***
mpirun noticed that job rank 7 with PID 25758 on
[node16:25758] [ 9] mdrun_mpi [0x40429a]
[node16:25758] *** End of error message ***
mpirun noticed that job rank 7 with PID 25758 on
signal 11 (Segmentation fault).
7 processes killed (possibly by Open MPI)
7 processes killed (possibly by Open MPI)
Could you please let me know what you think may be
Much thanks in advance.
Darrell Koskinen
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