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[gmx-users] PCA and FEL
sun
2016-05-15 03:33:34 UTC
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Hello everyone
I am using Gromacs 5.0 for protein-ligand MD. I want to do FEL analysis for the stability of my pro-lig complex. In a 2015 paper, The group calculated two principal component, PC1 and PC2 and then prepared an.xvg file to be used as input for g_sham. My question is, when we use g_anaeig; we get eigenvec.xvg. from -comp flag. Now how shall one select two principal components from that data? I am sorry if my question is wrong but please help me.

My second question is, can we use any two parameters like rmsd and Rg for input in g_sham to probe the stability of complex? Is that valid?

With Regards
Suniba

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Tsjerk Wassenaar
2016-05-15 05:21:37 UTC
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Hi Suniba,

No, with gmx anaeig you can select -2d, which does a 2D projection onto the
selected eigenvectors. Alternatively, you can combine any two projections
onto eigenvectors, which you get using the option -proj. The quickest way
to do that is something like:

paste <(grep -v '^[@#]' proj1.xvg) <(proj2.xvg) | awk '{print $2, $4}' >
combined.xvg

You will loose the labels, but that should be fine.

You can combine other variables in a similar manner.

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk
Post by sun
Hello everyone
I am using Gromacs 5.0 for protein-ligand MD. I want to do FEL analysis
for the stability of my pro-lig complex. In a 2015 paper, The group
calculated two principal component, PC1 and PC2 and then prepared an.xvg
file to be used as input for g_sham. My question is, when we use g_anaeig;
we get eigenvec.xvg. from -comp flag. Now how shall one select two
principal components from that data? I am sorry if my question is wrong but
please help me.
My second question is, can we use any two parameters like rmsd and Rg for
input in g_sham to probe the stability of complex? Is that valid?
With Regards
Suniba
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sun
2016-05-15 06:13:28 UTC
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Thank you very much Sir. I get you. Is it good enough to probe the stability of complex by projecting any two variables with free energy? like RMSD and Rg?


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Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Suniba,
No, with gmx anaeig you can select -2d, which does a 2D projection onto the
selected eigenvectors. Alternatively, you can combine any two projections
onto eigenvectors, which you get using the option -proj. The quickest way
combined.xvg
You will loose the labels, but that should be fine.
You can combine other variables in a similar manner.
Hope it helps,
Tsjerk
Post by sun
Hello everyone
I am using Gromacs 5.0 for protein-ligand MD. I want to do FEL analysis
for the stability of my pro-lig complex. In a 2015 paper, The group
calculated two principal component, PC1 and PC2 and then prepared an.xvg
file to be used as input for g_sham. My question is, when we use g_anaeig;
we get eigenvec.xvg. from -comp flag. Now how shall one select two
principal components from that data? I am sorry if my question is wrong but
please help me.
My second question is, can we use any two parameters like rmsd and Rg for
input in g_sham to probe the stability of complex? Is that valid?
With Regards
Suniba
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Tsjerk Wassenaar
2016-05-15 06:44:23 UTC
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Hi Suniba,

No, you will get the stability of configuration in the order parameters you
choose. But you don't know how much conformational freedom you have at each
point. Low RMSD will mean stable, but a fixed point at high RMSD does not.
Also note that the Rg is sort of part of the RMSD, which can be written as
Rg(A)+Rg(B)-2S(A,B), where S is the similarity. So these order parameters
will be correlated.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
Post by sun
Thank you very much Sir. I get you. Is it good enough to probe the
stability of complex by projecting any two variables with free energy? like
RMSD and Rg?
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Suniba,
No, with gmx anaeig you can select -2d, which does a 2D projection onto
the
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
selected eigenvectors. Alternatively, you can combine any two projections
onto eigenvectors, which you get using the option -proj. The quickest way
combined.xvg
You will loose the labels, but that should be fine.
You can combine other variables in a similar manner.
Hope it helps,
Tsjerk
Post by sun
Hello everyone
I am using Gromacs 5.0 for protein-ligand MD. I want to do FEL analysis
for the stability of my pro-lig complex. In a 2015 paper, The group
calculated two principal component, PC1 and PC2 and then prepared an.xvg
file to be used as input for g_sham. My question is, when we use
g_anaeig;
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Post by sun
we get eigenvec.xvg. from -comp flag. Now how shall one select two
principal components from that data? I am sorry if my question is wrong
but
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Post by sun
please help me.
My second question is, can we use any two parameters like rmsd and Rg
for
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Post by sun
input in g_sham to probe the stability of complex? Is that valid?
With Regards
Suniba
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sun
2016-05-15 08:19:45 UTC
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Allright Sir
Thank you very much for clearing the point.
With Regards
Suniba

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Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Suniba,
No, you will get the stability of configuration in the order parameters you
choose. But you don't know how much conformational freedom you have at each
point. Low RMSD will mean stable, but a fixed point at high RMSD does not.
Also note that the Rg is sort of part of the RMSD, which can be written as
Rg(A)+Rg(B)-2S(A,B), where S is the similarity. So these order parameters
will be correlated.
Cheers,
Tsjerk
Post by sun
Thank you very much Sir. I get you. Is it good enough to probe the
stability of complex by projecting any two variables with free energy? like
RMSD and Rg?
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Suniba,
No, with gmx anaeig you can select -2d, which does a 2D projection onto
the
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
selected eigenvectors. Alternatively, you can combine any two projections
onto eigenvectors, which you get using the option -proj. The quickest way
combined.xvg
You will loose the labels, but that should be fine.
You can combine other variables in a similar manner.
Hope it helps,
Tsjerk
Post by sun
Hello everyone
I am using Gromacs 5.0 for protein-ligand MD. I want to do FEL analysis
for the stability of my pro-lig complex. In a 2015 paper, The group
calculated two principal component, PC1 and PC2 and then prepared an.xvg
file to be used as input for g_sham. My question is, when we use
g_anaeig;
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Post by sun
we get eigenvec.xvg. from -comp flag. Now how shall one select two
principal components from that data? I am sorry if my question is wrong
but
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Post by sun
please help me.
My second question is, can we use any two parameters like rmsd and Rg
for
Post by Tsjerk Wassenaar
Post by sun
input in g_sham to probe the stability of complex? Is that valid?
With Regards
Suniba
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